We also looked at the six ways different groups wanted reform at the eve of the Reformation:
1. Reform through evangelsim - conversion is the way to reform society. Today - evangelism should be our priority...evangelical churches
2. Erasmus - Education will bring reform. If people have the correct knowledge that will bring reform to the church and change society. If priests just had a bible - today we would say seminaries.
3. Conciliarists - councils (Trent, Piza...) will bring reform - we need more structure and management - present day - we need a strategic plan and set goals...
4. The government assitance model - Henry VIII and in Spain the Inquisition - today Jerry Falwell, MLK...
5. Anabaptists - we need new churches back to the model of the New Testament church (this was during the time where there were state churches) today, Brethren, Mennonites etc
6. Ignatius Loyola let mission reform the church ...the Jesuits went all over the world...today - para-church orgs and mission societies.
Which is right? All of them...
Luther and Calvin used all six - the point there is not one way to bring reform to the church.
We spent the rest of the afternoon discussing how Christianity lost Africa.
Between 500 and 1300 the church didn’t grow – we gained Europe and lost
Northwest coast of
One fourth of all Christians lived there.
The thesis of some say, Islam destroyed the churches. Ray’s study shows the church self-destructed. Here is his thesis on how:
1. The church in Africa was never indigenous – the Greek controlled the East and
2. With exception of the church in the
3. The seminary in
4. The division between Truth church and Grace church – the devastating split in N Africa – 250-258 Rome celebrated it’s 1000 year anniversary. In this 8 year period the senators in
Novatia was a Roman traveling around and when he heard he said you cannot do that, what about those that have been martyred if we forgive those that lasped what does that say to those that died – the church split between truth churches and grace churches.
The church split in all these different ways so the church self-destructed. The theology got so complicated. When Islam came through. Islam had a 5 law track – basically believe God and obey these 5 things in fact you don’t have to believe it just do it.
1 comment:
sounds like a great several sessions. ahhh, sounds dreamy to do all that you are doing rose. as i've read through your wonderful entries, i get a little niggle in the back of my head. we often are the recipients of history as told by the conquerers (as you or one of your classmates observed earlier in the weekend), yet history is not merely that. be careful not to make over-generalizations about this. there are many ways in which history other than that written by the conqueres is unearthed and uncovered. too often we in the West still have our Western glasses through which we view everything, dividing it into neat little piles of non-indigenous East and West...meanwhile God is at work in history just below our historical perceptions. i find this to be especially true in research that i have donje on the spread of christianity in africa and toward the east into asia. one might think that from the perspective of many western history books that everyone in the entire world lived within the roman empire...which would neglect the parthians (who resisted rome) as well as those civilzations in india and china, etc. the apostles and the living word of the good news traveled in all ways, not just with paul to rome and europe. this is just what we have the most historical evidence of.
anyway, i'm totally jealous...it sounds just fantastic. thank you so much for posting the results and sharing...
peace
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